167: Lawyer Zhou definitely didn't do it on purpose.

Luo Hongxuan didn't know what to say at this point. For a moment, he felt as if Lawyer Zhou had intentionally wanted the other party to do this...

No, no, that couldn't be right. How could such a good person as Lawyer Zhou intentionally do something like that? It must still be the other party's problem.

Thinking of this, Luo Hongxuan said, "Then, Lawyer Zhou, should we continue to wait?"

Zhou Yun smiled and said, "Yes, continue to wait. It will be even more interesting if this case is decided and takes effect."

This was not him talking nonsense; before a case is decided, there is actually still room for maneuver.

But once a judgment is made, and especially if that judgment takes effect, then it's completely different.

At the very least, you can't change it within the Court's system anymore. You should know that the current Court also operates under a system of lifelong accountability.

Just a common sense point, students who frequently litigate should know that during the second instance, if the Judge is not in a hurry to make a judgment, and during the hearing repeatedly asks both parties if they have a desire to mediate, or if the Judge calls one party aside for various private communications, these are all types of situations.

Or if there are two hearings, or even if the evidence from the first instance is brought out for re-cross-examination, all these situations can indicate one thing: the second instance Judge is wavering on this case.

This is what we mean when we say there's a higher chance of the case being remanded for retrial or reversed.

Why? Because upholding the original judgment in the second instance is the norm. If this case were truly normal, there would be no need to consider too much; it would be directly upheld.

Upon reaching the intersection, Zhou Yun said, "Alright, Old Luo, let's go back for now."

"That boss will definitely contact you proactively later, including people from the Education Department, and also the Lawyer you met today. You will be very troubled."

"So I suggest you go to another place for a few days. You're divorced anyway, so tell your friends in advance that you're going out to relax."

"No matter who calls you, tell them that everything has been handed over to the Lawyer, and they should just contact the Lawyer."

When things reach this point, it's a 'dagger revealed at the end of the scroll' situation.

Luo Hongxuan immediately grew anxious upon hearing this: "Lawyer Zhou, do you think I can't withstand the pressure? I'm fine, honestly, if it can really put these people behind bars, I don't even need the money!"

"I don't believe they can do anything to me. I'm already like this, let them do whatever they want!"

"Anyway, I've already decided. Once this case is over, I'll move to another city. I've never really had a good time growing up."

For him, life was already like this. From a very capable boss to now a delivery guy, he truly hated those people from the bottom of his heart.

Zhou Yun smiled and waved his hand, saying, "That's your business. Anyway, I've given you my advice. I'm leaving."

He returned to the hotel. It had to be said that the Provincial Lawyers Association was currently paying for his accommodation...

Although the Lawyers Association would no longer pay if Mr. Zhou took on more cases, he was still a member of the public legal education team.

So, of course, the Lawyers Association had to pay for things like hotel stays.

Chairman Lan Hongbo also thought it over and decided that since it had already come to this, and they had already sued, then so be it.

It was nothing more than a dispute over project payments. At worst, they would win the administrative lawsuit and then file a civil lawsuit. This much could still be handled.

Anyway, as soon as the case here was finished, the Lawyers Association would notify Zhou Yun that his public legal education work was complete, and there would be no further connection.

The 'trap' this time was actually very simple: during the first instance, they made the situation extremely clear, stating that your trade secret did not infringe upon the legitimate rights and interests of a third party.

Actually, when normally litigating this type of case, the first thing to address when using "trade secret" as the basis is to first confirm whether it is indeed a trade secret.

The Anti-Unfair Competition Law has clear provisions on this: commercial information such as technical information and business information that is not known to the public, has commercial value, and for which the right holder has taken corresponding confidentiality measures.

Therefore, project information is particularly easy to dispute, because its scope is very broad, and there must be some content within it that has no commercial value, or for which the right holder has not taken confidentiality measures.

This is the normal method used when litigating this type of case.

But Zhou Yun was different. He directly admitted that it was a trade secret, and then focused all attention on "not obtaining third-party consent."

Why do we say that the more professional a person is, the easier they are to fall into traps? Because only professional people can have the kind of logical thinking to connect unliquidated claims with shareholders.

Many people have the mindset of "doing the opposite," but only professional Lawyers can establish a logical relationship through law.

And specifically, Lawyers proficient in administrative litigation and company law.

Many people are curious, don't Lawyers think about the criminal risks involved?

In fact, if you have more practical experience, you'll know that many civil Lawyers have gone to jail in recent years.

Why? Because civil and criminal law are two completely different ways of thinking. Criminal law emphasizes "no crime without explicit legal provision," while civil law emphasizes "freedom in the absence of explicit legal prohibition."

Therefore, many civil Lawyers have particularly strong divergent thinking. They will construct some logical relationships that are not explicitly stipulated by law through various legal provisions.

For example, here, company law only stipulates what to do with omitted debts after liquidation, but it doesn't say what to do if there are omitted claims.

So, as a professional Lawyer, you must use your skills to establish a logical relationship. This is a way to demonstrate your ability.

However, criminal law emphasizes penetrating thinking. Don't talk about useless things; criminal law only looks at who profited and whether the profit was an illegal possession.

Thus, Lawyer Yue Xialan fell into the trap. If only she hadn't been so professional, this matter wouldn't have escalated to this point.

As night deepened, whenever Zhou Yun thought about what was to come, he felt like laughing out loud... Perhaps he truly had a slight mental issue?

Time slowly passed, and finally, the second instance of the administrative lawsuit had a result.

"In summary, the appellant's appeal request is upheld, and the judgment number [...] made by the Railway Transportation Court is revoked."

"Luo Hongxuan's litigation request is rejected."

"This judgment is the final judgment."

Upon hearing the judgment, Yue Xialan immediately smiled. Director Xie and the other two next to her were also very happy.

Yue Xialan walked over and said with a smile, "Lawyer Zhou, you have nothing to say now, do you?"

Zhou Yun also smiled and said, "I have nothing to say, I am speechless. After all, I was outmatched. It's your freedom whether you want to post it online or anywhere else."

"Don't misunderstand, I can guess all your thoughts."

Upon hearing this, Yue Xialan was about to say something else when Presiding Yu Yuntao already approached and said, "Lawyer Zhou, I'd like to explain to you..."

Yu Yuntao was preparing to provide a post-judgment explanation, as everyone in the political and legal system now knew that Zhou Yun was a difficult person.

So, things had to be made clear, otherwise, it would be difficult if he applied for a retrial later.

Zhou Yun looked at the several very happy people on the side and then said, "Judge Yu, you don't need to explain. I understand everything. It's just that you might not be too clear about this matter."

"Ah?" Yu Yuntao looked puzzled: "Lawyer Zhou, what do you mean?"

"My meaning is, I initiated the administrative information disclosure not for disclosure's sake, but to obtain the project information and then help my client sue for that project payment," Zhou Yun quickly explained.

Yu Yuntao nodded and said, "I know that."

Zhou Yun then smiled again and said, "Yes, you also know that they presented new evidence in the second instance: a letter of opinion issued by the boss of the construction company my client was originally affiliated with."

"That boss believes that the claim for the project payment originally belonged to the company, and now that the company has been deregistered, it should belong to him."

"But you might not know that when my client was affiliated, he paid an affiliation fee of 150,000!"

Upon hearing this, Yu Yuntao's expression suddenly changed.

Zhou Yun continued, "And then today, you see, in such an important case, the other party came out and said that this money should be his."

"So, what kind of nature do you think this is? Although the affiliation act is invalid, that doesn't mean the 150,000 affiliation fee was fake!"